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Thank you!

In Envestio, Kuetzal and Grupeer I have lost €33000, good lesson, very sad I didn't know your blog before 2020 😄

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Well, this Substack blog was created only in Jan 2020 :) I think there were some other blogs who warned about scams before, but of course - most content was just pure promotion, with no research, thanks to affiliate deals.

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That is potentially a big blow. How long time would it take to make that money back to be in the green again (counting total portofolio)? Or maybe you are still green and you only lost play money?

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It was all the passive income I earned in 2019 and little bit more. But I count it only as I paid for interesting experience and I hope I have learned something 😏

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2020 started very interesting, and is still surprising us

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Most (p2p) financial blogs are indeed fully running on affiliate earnings. The earnings with successful referrals is big, and in many cases bigger than the p2p return itself. Most of thee bloggers do not show their affiliate income at all (sometimes it is also not possible to share due to contract, but nonetheless).

TargetCircle is the largest player (at least on the EU side) for fintech advertising with a heavy focus on the various p2p marketplaces. I do remember that at the moment Envestio and Kuetzal were proven to be frauds, even TargetCircle announced they learned from the situation and launched (at least in words within that announcement) a overhaul of their due-diligence process to prevent this occurring in the future. As you can see with Iban Wallet so far, that were just empty words. I do understand that TC drives on the commissions that these companies pay to TC to market their campaigns to bloggers etc. But they should pause the campaign immediately when suspicions emerge which are not clarified publicly by their client.

The other side is that TargetCircle deals with many more sectors besides FinTech. However I have to directly admit that these mostly target the various Nordic markets (Finland, Sweden, Norway) or individual specific countries.

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What some recent P2p which only accept crypto currency? The irony of Ethichub only accepting the currency of money laundering, must surely have some Greek origins. Better odds on the Euromillions!

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Had a quick look at Ethichub - looks shady, hard to believe this: "100%

SUCCESSFULLY REPAID PROJECTS"

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Crowdestor will probably blow up too. As far as I can see, their 'platform' is basically a copy of Kuetzal and Envestio.

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Wish I had found you before I got burned. High time for some healthy skepticism amid all the moronic hype.

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